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PostPosted: 17 Dec 2007 19:27 

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hello guys i am not aware of any programs that will crash sof2 servers if you no any that work plz upload or tell me were i can get this from . thankz . Also if there is a rcon hack aswel .... thank you


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PostPosted: 17 Dec 2007 21:42 

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......

http://aluigi.altervista.org/


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PostPosted: 18 Dec 2007 22:41 

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???

is there none


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PostPosted: 18 Dec 2007 23:00 

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that is luigi's site the place where u get them, if u would press the links to the right, or hey even use the search thing luigi added u might find something

sof2 is on the quake 3 engine, so look for q3 ^_^
http://aluigi.altervista.org/papers.htm#q3

u can also try the proof of concept page
http://aluigi.altervista.org/poc.htm

ok? dumbass. next time LOOK on the site some one gives you. GGKKTHX

even look under patches for things u probably can't use anymore before the servers are patched from it, most not all of course.


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PostPosted: 19 Dec 2007 21:33 

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dont just register to get hacks lol


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PostPosted: 19 Dec 2007 21:51 

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they aren't actual hacks, just simple exploits


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PostPosted: 19 Dec 2007 23:04 

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in reality all my stuff should be defined "proof-of-concept" which means that the main purpose is the practical demonstration of the problem I have found.
I don't give too much importance to definition, anyway I wanted only to show what's the correct one for me.

Anyway I'm curious about what's for you the difference between a hack and an exploit and then the difference between simple and non-simple exploits.
I think you have tons of experience in the security field so I have all my hears for you...


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PostPosted: 20 Dec 2007 02:05 

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what i consider as those word's definitions? ehh

for me they're quite simple definitions of my opinion
-hack - an illegal thing that shouldn't be done like viruses and stuff...(http://www.hackcanada.com/blackcrawl/hack.html haven't tried that that link but looks interesting)
-game hacking - use of an exploit in order to cheat, aimbot, crash, wallhack or basically get ur way :P which are just simple items not hacking
-exploit - a bug that is found and used by many, sometimes over used
-game exploit - a bug that is found and overused that needs a fixing :)
-simple exploit - ex: "/exec q3msgboom" & your DoS items (multircon, infoboom) and also one that will be found by the public eventually
-non-simple exploit - ehh more of an advance thing that amateurs can't do, heh which most can't understand how to use ur DoS, think of an exploit that is hard to reach and hard to do, can't think of any examples right now but one that is hard to do and hard to fix
==all-in-all hack and exploit are totally different...
those are my short definitions i could of wrote it a lot more and in more detail but uh i'd have to type a page or 2 :) so i tried summarizing it as best as possible

and for ur definition of ur "exploits" i would really not consider a it a proof of a concept, if it is a demonstration that would mean for show and not for download for people to use, also u recreate the problem for different games and show it to the public so i would still call it an exploit :) have u ever been sued for any of these 'exploits/proof-of-concepts' you've found? u shouldn't have but i'm just asking :P

as for ur opinion, sort of putting me on the spot there heh, i wouldn't say tons of experience but i would say some :), but i am aware of tons of security stuff

psh, what's your definition of a hack and exploit and the difference between simple and non-simple exploit? the same thing?


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PostPosted: 20 Dec 2007 11:13 

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my difference between simple and non-simple is very easy:
- simple: no source code (just the pre-build packet/file to use) or a code without advanced/useless checks or which just doesn't follow the protocol/format (for example the full or parts of the full packet or file in memory), this is the fastest and probably easiest way for creating and using a PoC
- non-simple: respecting of the protocol/format and handling of possible errors and exception (authentications, passwords and so on) and so on

and also for the other definitions mines are completely different than yours simply because you refer mainly on 2 points which don't matter with the definitions: usage (easy/hard to use) and availability (private, public and so on)

And just a note, being aware of a security tool is not the same of being active in the security field, otherwise anyone can pass a day surfing on some security websites which archive exploits and PoC and then say to have "experience".


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PostPosted: 20 Dec 2007 13:34 

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isnt hacking more like ... doing harm to website, game, server ..etc WITH exploits, scripts ..etc ? well not only doing harm .. also collecting valuable info (still harming if u start using that info)
i would say that hacking is more like finding and using exploits, scripts, programs (whtever works)...
..just found this topic and ..added my opinion :)


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PostPosted: 20 Dec 2007 15:22 

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"hacking" is one of the most confusing words existent.
I think that it can be referred to anything advanced done with computers (but are we sure it can be limited only to computers?) since today you can use the word "hacker" from who takes access to a remote system to who works on the Linux kernel or from who does reversing to who creates assembly demos and so on...

That's why is better to use the correct terms for all the things avoiding the "hack*" terms, for example when you say "hacking is more like finding and using exploits, scripts, programs" I think here the correct term is "skript kidding".


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PostPosted: 20 Dec 2007 16:18 

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Sethioz wrote:
isnt hacking more like ... doing harm to website, game, server ..etc WITH exploits, scripts ..etc ? well not only doing harm .. also collecting valuable info (still harming if u start using that info)
i would say that hacking is more like finding and using exploits, scripts, programs (whtever works)...

eh hacking i do not beleive is using exploits, scripts and programs i still consider that all exploits and uses, hacking is more like illegal stuff, it can be if ur collecting valuable info as in going inside a database and viewing it, yeah thats hacking but not exploiting

aluigi wrote:
I think here the correct term is "skript kidding".
yes. heheh


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PostPosted: 22 Dec 2007 22:45 

Joined: 14 Aug 2007 13:32
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they aren't actual hacks, just simple exploits

I have to admit i've never saw a simple exploit released by luigi.Would love to see some of your coding and exploit development skill's evan1715.


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PostPosted: 22 Dec 2007 23:34 

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what do u mean? they are indeed exploits


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PostPosted: 22 Dec 2007 23:49 

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n00b, the "simple" about evan referred regards the usage and the availability of my PoC not the realization... it's a totally wrong term IMHO as I said but at least now we have the mistery solved 8-)


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PostPosted: 23 Dec 2007 00:06 

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Oh sorry lol ..!!


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